kraft is going out, romney, taxes, your choice? >> i think that obama with apple could they sell five million and not be disappointing. only with apple could you read that everybody didn't have enough iphones and yet we decided that the iphone is not popular. this is kind of the culture of stock run up, stock come back apple that has been with us ever since it started the move and people abandon apple every time there is a negative headline. >> there is an article today in the "new york times" with apple, will they be the first to break 1 million? >> i think the quarter is going to be better than expected. people aren't focused on that right now. they are focused on the line. i don't want a club that wants me. in the end, apple can stall out and still do well. that's always been something that people can't figure out. how could a stock stall out and go down and still be good? and that's apple. >> jim, we've got to run but what would be the turning point if there was one? people are starting to talk this way. >> what would make it f